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Re: The Dance Club

Post by HollyShort9 » Mon 21st Sep 2009

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HollyShort9 wrote:Actually, Iwuvarty, most of those girls I posted that you think are really awesome really weren't so awesome--they were dancing a bit clumsily, flexed their feet instead of pointing them sometimes, and kept forgetting to lock their arms to their sides.
THESE people are some AWESOME Irish dancers (and no, they're not professionals!)


Actually I don' even know their names! XD
I don't really like korean dancers and singers. Didn't even know them! XD


I was talking about the ones I posted that you said were awesome, lol.
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Post by iwuvarty » Thu 24th Sep 2009

Oh.
But it is true that I don't know their names! XD
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Post by KierisaNOT12 » Thu 24th Sep 2009

I asked mom if she thought there was any dance I could do, and she says the dances I liked were more for .. lean skinny people, ya know? *sigh* I don't think I have the money to pay for dance at the moment anyway, so I guess its better that way.
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Re: The Dance Club

Post by HollyShort9 » Fri 25th Sep 2009

P: Sorry, K12... I saw your pics and don't think you're fat, though!
Maybe you should tell your mom that there ARE heavier-set people who tapdance that I know, there ARE heavier-set girls who I have seen Irish dance like they were skinny, and that it's NOT just for skinny people, although that is the majority of them. x'D

Oh, and I just got back from the first class I teacher-assistant-ed! XD

I can see why she needed a TA (teacher's assistant). 7 three-year olds are hard to manage. o_o
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Re: The Dance Club

Post by HollyShort9 » Fri 25th Sep 2009

iwa, we're supposed to put videos in links so they don't clog up the forum. /b/ says that only the Official Youtube Thread should be clogged with a bunch of videos and images under the Youtube and IMG codes, so... we gotta put 'em in links, sorry.

I have that STUPID If You're Happy And You Know It Clap Your Hands song stuck in my head! I've had it stuck in my head ever since the warmup this morning!

If you're happy and you know it *point* clap your hands *clap clap clap*! If you're happy and you know it *point* clap your hands *clap clap clap* If you're happy and you know it and you really want to show it, if you're happy and you know it clap your hands *clap clap clap*! If you're happy and you know it stomp your feet *THUD THUD* if you're happy and you know it stomp your feet *THUD THUD*

You see how it goes. P:

Oh, and I have some stuff for those who Irish dance:

Irish dancing and science wouldn’t ordinarily go hand in hand, but Australian dance student, Alexandra Hahn, has just won the New South Wales Intel Young Scientist Award for proving just how tough her favourite hobby really is. Claire Spreadbury investigates.



Irish dancing is made up of a huge cross section of people: men, women, girls and boys, of all shapes and sizes, from utterly different walks of life. There’s a huge cultural connection involved with this hobby, although it has to be said, many dancers have no Irish connection whatsoever and simply take dance classes for fun, for exercise, or just because they like it.



We’ve always known the intensity of Irish dancing and now, a 14 year old student has proved it, simply because she was fed up of her friends insisting dancing didn’t take as much effort as other ‘proper’ activities. And, after scooping the top prize for her project ‘Establishing A MET Value For Irish Dancing’, it would seem Alexandra’s not only proved you have to be fit to Irish dance, but that Irish dancing should no longer been seen as ‘just a hobby’ and instead, a physically demanding sport.



It all began back in 2003 at science class. To show her friends just how tough Irish dancing really is, Alexandra decided to base her project on her biggest love. She called it ‘The Exercise Intensity Of Irish Dancing’ and went to work comparing dancing to the likes of soccer and swimming.



She used a heart monitor during training sessions and calculated MET (metabolic) values, whilst asking dancers at class to rate their perceived level of exertion. The outcome was just as Alexandra had thought – Irish dancing took much more effort, with a MET value of 8.0, as opposed to swimming at 7.75 and soccer at 7.5.



Mrs Linbury, Alexandra’s Science teacher, was so impressed, she submitted the project to the Science Teachers’ Association’s Annual Intel Young Scientist Of The Year competition. Alexandra attended the awards ceremony in Sydney (a ten hour drive from her home in Lismore, New South Wales) and was awarded third place in the Years 7 – 9 age category.



Alexandra, of course, was thrilled with this result and was encouraged by the judges to research further within her project. Her original study was limited, due to the fact she couldn’t gain access to a Polar Heart Rate Monitor for long enough periods of time.



“I compared my own heart rate during my regular training sessions for Irish dancing, with soccer and swimming, and found the highest heart rates I recorded were during Irish dancing,”



“I also conducted a survey of Irish dancers, about the different sports they did and the results showed Irish dancing used more energy. The problem with the project was I needed more subjects than just me and more repetitions of measurements, to make the results more reliable.”



Knowing what she knew, Alexandra delved deeper into the physical intensity of Irish dancing. Her follow-up project enlisted the help of some of her fellow dancers, for a five-week study, with the use of heart rate monitors, provided by the Polar Company, worth $2,500 (AUS).



“Dr Allan Davie at Southern Cross University showed me how to calculate a MET value,”



Alexandra continued. “After each session of heart rate recording, I had to transcribe pages and pages of data from the monitors, eventually calculating the METs and writing up all the information.”



“A lot of people don’t know very much about Irish dancing, apart from what they’ve seen in Riverdance and most people would see it purely as a cultural activity, rather than an intensive exercise or sport. It turned out Irish dancing has a MET value of 8.2 [at Intermediate/Open level], which means it uses more energy than high-impact aerobic dance (7 METs) and ballet (6 METs).”



It was these findings that led Alexandra to win her category and become the 2004 NSW Intel Young Scientist Of The Year, as well as achieving an extra award, the Powerhouse Museum’s Experimentations Award, presented for the project that best explains a scientific or technological principal.



So, Alexandra has proven Irish dancing is far from a walk in the park. As well as practise, technical ability and a huge amount of dedication, Irish dancing uses up more energy than most other sports and requires a high level of fitness.



Is it any surprise then that the world of Irish dancing is becoming more focused on injury prevention? It’s essential dancers warm-up and cool down, take care of their bodies by wearing the correct footwear and take advantage of all shock absorbing and general health and fitness products on the market today. They may add to the on-going costs of Irish dancing, but they’re a much needed reality in today’s competitive world, where Irish dance injuries occur more frequently than we’d like.



Definition Of MET Values:

How much energy you use up doing an activity such as Irish dancing can be measured in units called METS, which are multiples of your basal metabolic rate. Your basal metabolic rate is "the energy required for essential physiological functioning after 8 hours sleep and 12 hours fasting" - put simply: the number of calories to keep your body functioning whilst at rest. One MET is equivalent to your body's metabolism at rest.



MET Values:

Horse Riding 3.5 METs

Cycling (24 mph) 5.0 METs

Gymnastics 5.5 METs

Basketball 6.0 METs

Tennis 7.0 METs

Hockey 8.0 METs

Jogging 8.5 METs

Running 12.5 METs



HA! THAT PROVES THAT IRISH DANCE DOES INDEED TAKE UP A LOT OF ENERGY! It takes up more energy than basketball, gymnastics, horseback riding, swimming and soccer, and the same amount of energy as hockey!

And here are some videos and useful links for Irish dancers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qLXAJ48 ... annel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCuOfOK3 ... annel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrQQS0pP ... annel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B718Rsbo ... annel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COI_Lb4m ... re=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSaa-2t2zmQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XONiW8pV5k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zuJETOEkQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XpKZ2-5QY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-0B4eZk ... re=related

Getting A Wig/Taking Care Of A Wig

Taking Care Of Your Dress

Dress Rules For Feis (competitions) And An Coimusiun Competitions

Health + Fitness

Getting your New or Used Solo Dress to Fit Just Right

Overview of Your First Feis

To Do with Hardshoes - Elastics

To Do with Hardshoes - Buckles

Another Overview of Your First Feis
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Post by Julissa Holly Fowl » Sun 27th Sep 2009

I want to join!
I'm taking Irish dance lessons some unspecifed time in the future, hopefully soon.
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Post by HollyShort9 » Sun 27th Sep 2009

Awesome, Ju! Welcome aboard! ^_^

Oh, and:
I found videos of the college I want to go to (Juilliard! YAAAAAAAAAAAY! But only 8 percent of their applicants get in each year. o_o)
Don't watch the videos unless you have a lot of time, because they're almost an hour long each, so...

Episode 1 of 3

Episode 2

Episode 3-- Final Episode

Just tell me if I'm annoying you guys and I'll stop sending you tons of PMs and videos every day x'D
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Post by iwuvarty » Mon 28th Sep 2009

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Post by Julissa Holly Fowl » Mon 28th Sep 2009

I checked Jean Butler's Irish Dance Masterclass out of the library two days ago, and I'm having soooo much fun with it! Pity the only screen I can watch it on is the size of a postage stamp.
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Post by HollyShort9 » Mon 28th Sep 2009

Ju: I suggest you don't try that stuff until you start classes unless you are ABSOLUTELY SURE that the parts of it you're doing you're not making mistakes on, because otherwise you can start bad habits, and then when you do start classes, it'll be really hard to break them. (Trust me, I've had bad habits before with dancing and piano, it's super hard to break them. Dancing--especially Irish dancing--takes so much concentration already, you don't want to have to concentrate on not doing your bad habit, too!)
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Post by Julissa Holly Fowl » Mon 28th Sep 2009

I figured that might be the case, so I only tried the warm-up. Once I'm in classes, I'll go back to the library and get the DVD out again. Until then, I'll just watch it.
And, Holly, I recognized the song Mairead played in the documentary part of the DVD. I'm positive it's Tri Fhidili/Smash the Windows, a song in her album Raining Up.
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Post by HollyShort9 » Mon 28th Sep 2009

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS WITH ME JU!!!

http://www.celticcafe.com/archive/Dance/RDauditions.htm
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You are most welcome, Holly!
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Re: The Dance Club

Post by HollyShort9 » Thu 1st Oct 2009

If anyone comes in here and tells me that dance doesn't take a lot of work, I will personally hurt them. This is what dancers do every day (this once I'm going to code the videos):






And here are some core stability exercises that we do every day:
http://www.irish-dancer.co.uk/dance3.html

Runner's stretch. Splits. Stretches that target different leg and arm muscles. Sit ups. Crunches. Push ups. Weight lifting. The scorpion (Freaking. Hurts. This is a pic of a cheerleader doing it. Except, of course, dancers don't wear the slutty outfits while doing it, and we have our foot on solid ground). Ovals (they're like sit ups and crunches, except instead of doing them straight up and down, you do it in a circle. Never letting your back or head touch the ground). There are even more that I don't know the names of.

So! *smiles creepily* Anyone come to me telling me that dancers don't work hard and don't go through a lot of pain, and... *bares nonexistant fangs* I WILL HURT THEM.
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