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Re: Artemis Fowl Read-Along

Post by artymon I\/ » Sun 31st May 2020

Hello all! Sorry for a late reply.

Below are my thoughts for 7 & 8
(I know, 7 was supposed to be last week :oops: )

Chapter 7

Thoughts on Holly agreeing to go with Root on the Arctic mission:
  • Doesn’t trust Artemis (obviously)
  • Will have Root’s back no matter what, as he would for her
  • Let’s face it, she’s a total thrill seeker. She’s down for an adventure.


Not to be “technical” –

Fill-In: You mean nitpicky.

*shrugs*

The Softnoses, what exactly are they firing? They’re described initially as being a slower firing laser that fully penetrates/slays the target. A laser, as in a beam of light, right? Yet here it’s described that Cudgeon is pumping shells into targets. Shells, as in physical bits of whatever. Is the Softnose literally firing bits of the battery?

Also, speaking of weaponry: How exactly does that work with the LEP guns that Opal has disabled? My interpretation was that older guns like Roots theoretically should’ve been fine, whereas the newer tech that came from Koboi would be down.
My take is that Root’s tri-barreled blaster is the Mud Man equivalent of a Smith & Wesson 500, big and bad, etc…but then along comes Glock who offers to give out free / discounted guns to the force. The Glock guns are corrupted, but weapons from other manufacturers should be fine, i.e., the S&W 500 / tri-barreled blaster.
Or is this [mystery blob] a substance found in literally every weapon under earth? Save for Softnoses.

Disregard. I re-read that passage. Opal comes in to upgrade all the weapons, even Root’s blaster.

Chapter 8

Mikhael is not very bright. He’s been working with Britva for years and still uses his name on the phone? Cherry on top is he calls the Menidzher by his alias off the phone. Idjit.

From Eoin’s perspective, Russia seems to essentially be just one big landmass of ice, snow, and radiation that will reduce you to a glop of glowing goo.

Shouldn’t Root, Holly and Co have checked the weather before leaving?

Perfect example/showcase of Holly being a different kind of smart, able to think on her feet and cut to the chase A to B. As opposed to the Artemis Fowls of the methodical long haul variety that voyage from A to Z.

The big takeaway here is Holly not hesitating to save Artemis. She has a perfect opportunity to let him drop or claim the B’wa Kell ganked him.

Seems exceedingly weird these goblins, the so-proclaimed king idiots of the underground, have hesitated long enough to have a rational thought process about why shooting at or around the train is a bad idea. Either goblins are smarter than Eoin gives them credit for or these three are the Stephen Hawkings of their species.
At this point, I can’t say I blame Nyle, anything to end this roundabout conversation xD

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  • Root and Holly just let Arty toss his gun, that is fairy tech that could be discovered. Yes Foaly says that his tech has an auto-destruct that you can enable BUT this tech might be Koboi tech. And Foaly can't destruct something if he never knows its missing in the first place. Plus with everything sabotaged by Koboi so that it doesn't work, the auto-destruct might not work either. I know it's the middle of Russia and it might not get found, but the fairies are super careful with all their stuff
  • Two fairy corpses to add to the fairy gun! The polar ice caps are decimated now not even 20 years later eeep.
This. I sort of let it slide, but yeah. I suppose if Root and Holly weren't under fire they might have yelled at him....or perhaps later they sent some people out to retrieve/destruct it. Or a human plods along and uses it to make an Ironman suit.
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  • Was it really not possible to ask a ransom while he was an in a coma? Surely there'd have been ways to prove he was still alive. Looking after someone in a coma is a lot of work.
Right? My only guess would be that perhaps a comatose patient would be seen as undesirable, even if for a loved one? Or they might have wanted to pump Artemis Sr for information. Security procedures, Fowl staff personal, financial standings...

They keep saying "kidnapping" but really opportunistic babysitting with forced payment is closer to the mark. Kidnapping implies some form of plotting for heaven's sake.
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  • Considering how much Holly improvises and how good she is at it, the promise of improvisation is no cause for shivering.
My take: There's Holly improv and Artemis improv xD
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  • Of course, promising to buy a ridiculous home gymnasium isn't the same as promising to use it. We're on to you, Artemis.

:lol:

I must be a dark and deranged individual. No one else pointed out Holly saving Artemis's life. Or remembered the finger xD
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Re: Artemis Fowl Read-Along

Post by Battery » Sun 7th Jun 2020

Hey y'all, it's the weekend again :) How's everyone keeping up with the reading? Are we good, or do we need an extra week for this chunk? (I'll also go ahead and say that if you're the last person to post about one week's chunk and you're ready to talk about the next week's chapters before anyone else, go ahead and double post :))

I remember next to nothing about the back half of this book, and I'm finding myself being more and more drawn into it and less analytical as we go

Chapter 9
  • More parallels: Holly and Cudgeon dealt with falling out of favor with the LEP because of the Artemis incident very differently
  • Butler walking around with everyone dangling off the moon belt is an amazing image. Reminds me of those fanart pieces where one character has all the others on child leashes
  • Root admits that Foaly's ideas are usually good, now that he's not in the room
Chapter 10
  • I feel like Grub Kelp would be happier in another line of work
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Re: Artemis Fowl Read-Along

Post by artymon I\/ » Mon 8th Jun 2020

I suspect we might benefit from having another week, but I'm good now :)

I also find myself just being drawn in, like being welcomed back in by an old friend.

Things are certainly heating up in here!

Chapter 9: No Safe Haven
  • Chill, Foaly. You narrowed a search.
  • I like the mention of Cudgeon's hand. Foaly interprets it as intimidation or as a sign of the former Commander cracking up. Whereas we know Cudgeon's shaking with glee.
  • Root has tape with him. In the Arctic. Rocket Raccoon would utterly love him.
  • The mental image of Artemis patting Holly down and Root losing it.
To risk sounding sexist, the funny thing with the whole Opal/Foaly thing...in today's world - and even back then - the situation would be reversed; that is, an intelligent female would almost certainly overshadow a male of similar intelligent. Heck, even a marginally intelligent lass would probably net a decent chance at succeeding over a guy.
We like intelligent, independent females. And the more outspoken, the better.
We can possibly draw a conclusion that Fairies are not as forward thinking as they like to imagine themselves. Or worse, that they're narrower minded.

Chapter 10: Trouble and Strife
  • I kind of forgot how intense the Spuds scene was.
  • Chaos, panic, riots, and looting in the streets? Wait, aren't I reading to escape real life?
  • There is absolutely no shame in retreating. Especially when you have more than your own life to consider. Live to fight again.
  • [nitpick] Again, I ask, what are these Softnoses firing? Literally in the span of half a page the terms laser and slug are used to describe their load.
  • Root yelling at Holly to do finger exercises whilst slung over Butler's shoulder. If I were in anyway artistically inclined, I would so fanart that.
  • Artemis and Co. have an Atlantean shuttle stocked with fish and seafood. Being as the residents of Atlantis are described as being semi-aquatic and having gills...does that make them semi-cannibals for eating fish?
  • On topic of fish: Later books state nearly all fairies are vegan/vegetarian and even the act of harvesting/eating certain shellfish is highly illegal. Remember the Doodah pixie dude? Did fairy laws change that much in the span of two years or do Atlantis and Haven have different laws on this? Maybe it's part of a vacation incentive? "Come to Atlantis, water-conditioned casinos and all you can eat shrimp cocktail! Fun for the whole family!"
  • "If alive, please help. If not, wrong number." Always gets a chuckle from me.
  • Mulch!!! :D

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Chapter 10
  • I feel like Grub Kelp would be happier in another line of work
Right?? Hm....my theory would be that perhaps Grub and Trub's dad used to be LEP and died in the line of duty, leaving a legacy for his sons to fill, no doubt encouraged by Mummy.
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Post by Cabaline » Tue 9th Jun 2020

I know I'm late, my apologies, but here goes:

Chapter 9
  • More ancient text that when translated somehow manages to rhyme in English :lol:
  • If only Foaly had listened to protocol and not his own ego
  • Thank goodness Holly didn't listen to protocol :joy:
  • Watching that healing actually sounds terrifying
Chapter 10
  • It takes a brave man to run directly through fire
  • I wonder if the "lay on hands" is a deliberate DnD reference
  • Ah the good old 'fake tantrum' bit! I wonder if he learned it from Holly?
  • Foaly using all caps, text speech, like an old man :lol: It's still the best message!
  • Ooooh I forgot that they god hold of Mulch again so soon!
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To risk sounding sexist, the funny thing with the whole Opal/Foaly thing...in today's world - and even back then - the situation would be reversed; that is, an intelligent female would almost certainly overshadow a male of similar intelligent. Heck, even a marginally intelligent lass would probably net a decent chance at succeeding over a guy.
We like intelligent, independent females. And the more outspoken, the better.
We can possibly draw a conclusion that Fairies are not as forward thinking as they like to imagine themselves. Or worse, that they're narrower minded.
Spoken like a man :lol: In seriousness, I sincerely disagree. As a woman in a marginalised field (physics), the world you have painted does not exist. Men with less than marginal intelligence insist that they know more because they watched a youtube video or read the back of a cereal box, and will not for one second accept a woman being better at something than they are. A woman who is an expert in her field will often be overlooked for a man who likes to talk too loudly. The world as a whole does not like outspoken, independent women the proof of that is the names that we get called when we dare actually voice our thoughts unequivocally. Not to mention the fact that a woman can be the world expert in her field, and men will still choose to criticise her hair or what she's wearing or how unattractive she is, than listen to her message.
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Post by Battery » Tue 9th Jun 2020

artymon I\/ wrote:
Mon 8th Jun 2020
  • Chill, Foaly. You narrowed a search.
This made me laugh :lol:
Cabaline wrote:
Tue 9th Jun 2020
  • I wonder if the "lay on hands" is a deliberate DnD reference
I wondered this too! Ended up assuming it was just a saying I wasn't familiar with, but maybe not 🤔
Cabaline wrote:
  • Ah the good old 'fake tantrum' bit! I wonder if he learned it from Holly?
I hadn't even thought of that :lol: I love it, I hope so! I'm imagining the LEP teaching everyone the technique of pretending to have a dramatic breakdown, in the future
Cabaline wrote:In seriousness, I sincerely disagree. As a woman in a marginalised field (physics), the world you have painted does not exist. Men with less than marginal intelligence insist that they know more because they watched a youtube video or read the back of a cereal box, and will not for one second accept a woman being better at something than they are. A woman who is an expert in her field will often be overlooked for a man who likes to talk too loudly. The world as a whole does not like outspoken, independent women the proof of that is the names that we get called when we dare actually voice our thoughts unequivocally. Not to mention the fact that a woman can be the world expert in her field, and men will still choose to criticise her hair or what she's wearing or how unattractive she is, than listen to her message.
Some sources to back this up. Though, whether or not this is the same in the fairy world (or for Opal in this specific circumstance) is up for debate :lol:
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Post by Iris » Tue 9th Jun 2020

Battery wrote:
Sun 7th Jun 2020
I remember next to nothing about the back half of this book, and I'm finding myself being more and more drawn into it and less analytical as we go
Same here!
Battery wrote:
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Cabaline wrote:In seriousness, I sincerely disagree. As a woman in a marginalised field (physics), the world you have painted does not exist. Men with less than marginal intelligence insist that they know more because they watched a youtube video or read the back of a cereal box, and will not for one second accept a woman being better at something than they are. A woman who is an expert in her field will often be overlooked for a man who likes to talk too loudly. The world as a whole does not like outspoken, independent women the proof of that is the names that we get called when we dare actually voice our thoughts unequivocally. Not to mention the fact that a woman can be the world expert in her field, and men will still choose to criticise her hair or what she's wearing or how unattractive she is, than listen to her message.
Some sources to back this up. Though, whether or not this is the same in the fairy world (or for Opal in this specific circumstance) is up for debate :lol:
Fully agree with Cabby and Battery. Generally, women have to be more intelligent and more capable in order to have the same hiring chance or pay (although it does depend on the field and is getting better).
As for what this is like in the fairy world, it is very specifically stated Holly is the first woman in her department and under close observation for it. I think we can safely conclude sexism is very real in the fairy world and no fairy in the book has claimed more advancement in that area, only when it comes to tech and caring about nature. These kind of critical themes are far more present in the book than I remembered, the books contain more criticism on pollution than I remember, and Holly being the first female in her department isn't the only mention of sexism at all.
artymon I\/ wrote:
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[*]Chaos, panic, riots, and looting in the streets? Wait, aren't I reading to escape real life?
I can imagine it's very odd for an American, yes.
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[*] Artemis and Co. have an Atlantean shuttle stocked with fish and seafood. Being as the residents of Atlantis are described as being semi-aquatic and having gills...does that make them semi-cannibals for eating fish?
By that same logic, most humans are cannibals for eating other mammals~ xD
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Re: Artemis Fowl Read-Along

Post by Cabaline » Tue 9th Jun 2020

Battery wrote:
Tue 9th Jun 2020
Cabaline wrote:
  • Ah the good old 'fake tantrum' bit! I wonder if he learned it from Holly?
I hadn't even thought of that :lol: I love it, I hope so! I'm imagining the LEP teaching everyone the technique of pretending to have a dramatic breakdown, in the future
I would love to see that training, and I would absolutely love to see Root and Trouble practising their tantrums, for their tantrum exams :lol:

Iris wrote:
Tue 9th Jun 2020
Battery wrote:
Tue 9th Jun 2020
Cabaline wrote:In seriousness, I sincerely disagree. As a woman in a marginalised field (physics), the world you have painted does not exist. Men with less than marginal intelligence insist that they know more because they watched a youtube video or read the back of a cereal box, and will not for one second accept a woman being better at something than they are. A woman who is an expert in her field will often be overlooked for a man who likes to talk too loudly. The world as a whole does not like outspoken, independent women the proof of that is the names that we get called when we dare actually voice our thoughts unequivocally. Not to mention the fact that a woman can be the world expert in her field, and men will still choose to criticise her hair or what she's wearing or how unattractive she is, than listen to her message.
Some sources to back this up. Though, whether or not this is the same in the fairy world (or for Opal in this specific circumstance) is up for debate :lol:
Fully agree with Cabby and Battery. Generally, women have to be more intelligent and more capable in order to have the same hiring chance or pay (although it does depend on the field and is getting better).
As for what this is like in the fairy world, it is very specifically stated Holly is the first woman in her department and under close observation for it. I think we can safely conclude sexism is very real in the fairy world and no fairy in the book has claimed more advancement in that area, only when it comes to tech and caring about nature. These kind of critical themes are far more present in the book than I remembered, the books contain more criticism on pollution than I remember, and Holly being the first female in her department isn't the only mention of sexism at all.
Thanks for the links Battery! <3
Yes, these books have far more about global warming, sexism and capitalism/consumerism than I had remembered. But I am glad that I was reading content that exposed me to these issues at a young age, and in a way that I could understand. :D
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Post by Cabaline » Sat 13th Jun 2020

For once in my life I actually did the reading on time :lol: So I am being a bit naughty and double posting, but I loved this week's reading so much, I can't just hold on to it :D

My first thought when I picked the book up, we really don't have much of the book left, but I still remember there being so much stuff to happen. How can it all squeeze in?

Chapter 11
  • Oh Mulch how I had missed you. And I totally forgot about that pore thing. Ew.
  • The fact that Root feels comfortable talking to Holly when she is trying to pilot a shuttle says a lot about how much faith he has in her abilities
  • Good old Root doing the hard work and getting on the outside of a shuttle in a chute. He's earned his title.
  • I forgot just how much I enjoyed this chapter! It's all going on and the back and forths between perspectives makes it move at such a pace!
  • Mulch speaks dog!
Chapter 12
  • A camera on a laptop is seen as super advanced, oh my!
  • Was Cudgeon gloating to Foaly from the tactical room just metres away from Trouble and the rest?! That's risky!
  • "I realise, Julius, that it is not an accurate schematic" made me cackle out loud!
The more I get into it the less I note down because I am just so into it! These two chapters were fantastic, I'd forgotten how fast-paced and exciting everything gets :D

Also, once again, just posting this here so that we have it ready to hand on each page:
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For anyone wondering about the schedule, this is what we have worked out, obviously, things can be flexible if needed to be :D

Week 1 (4/5) - Prologue, Ch 1 & 2 (35 pages)
Week 2 (11/5) - Ch 3 & 4 (29 pages)
Week 3 (18/5) - Ch 5, 6 & 7 (38 pages)
Week 4 (25/5) - Ch 8 (26 pages)
Week 5 (1/6) - Ch 9 & 10 (37 pages)
Week 6 (8/6) - Ch 11 & 12 (41 pages)
Week 7 (15/6) - Ch 13 (35 pages)
Week 8 (22/6) - Ch 14 & Epilogue (19 pages)

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Re: Artemis Fowl Read-Along

Post by Iris » Sun 14th Jun 2020

Cabaline wrote:
Sat 13th Jun 2020
My first thought when I picked the book up, we really don't have much of the book left, but I still remember there being so much stuff to happen. How can it all squeeze in?
As I'm reading online, I didn't really notice how far we'd gotten. But looking at the read-along schedule, you're absolutely right. Only two chapters to go!
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"I realise, Julius, that it is not an accurate schematic" made me cackle out loud!
My geography teacher had this exact same joke whenever he drew Asia during the explanation of the monsoons. It was a rectangle too.

On to my own notes:
- Honestly, either Mulch is really skilled or Foaly is less skilled than he claims to be. He has been stealing Oscars for 6 months and Foaly already knew where he lived, yet couldn't find any evidence good enough to bring to Root? Or possibly Foaly just wasn't that invested in catching him.
- Julius, however, is very invested.
- Sometimes Eoin refers to him as the Grouch and sometimes as Mulch. Interesting.
- Look at that. Artemis doesn't want to make a smart remark. He's really growing up during this mission.
- Why does Mulch still try to flee after realizing he can't get away? I'd have liked to be spared that sharp shock.

- How nice that villains are so easily goaded into revealing their masterplan.
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Post by Battery » Mon 15th Jun 2020

Finally done! Sorry it took so long :) It really is something looking at how little of the book we have left! And I don't remember exactly how all this gets wrapped up, so I'm excited! :D

Continuing the trend of my having less and less to say each week,

Chapter 11
  • I'm surprised more people didn't ship Holly and Butler back in the day
  • Things are getting real for Artemis. It's interesting to see Butler more in his element and in control than Artemis is, and fun to see Artemis calculating and putting together solid plans despite his lack of experience
Chapter 12
  • A computer camera for video conferencing! Can you imagine? :lol:
  • More contrast. Artemis is sobered out of making a sarcastic comment when he sees literal blood on his hands, whereas Cudgeon has no issue overseeing this much destruction
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  • Was Cudgeon gloating to Foaly from the tactical room just metres away from Trouble and the rest?! That's risky!
Wow, I didn't put that together! That's some nerve :lol:
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Post by artymon I\/ » Tue 16th Jun 2020

Hello all! Apologies for being late!

I'll break the short note streak and do what I do best...rant :D


Chapter 11: Mulch Ado About Nothing

It was around this point I made a tiny headcanon with Butler. By this point, we see he has a lot of fairy tech on him. Enough that Foaly saw fit to issue the Moonbelt, etc...
Anyway, it came into my head that maaaybe part of the reason Foaly was so overzealous in arming Butler was to use him as a guinea pig for his tech. It's never mentioned that it's experimental - aside from the SafetyNet thing - but perhaps after the encounter with Luc, Foaly realized that Butler can actually handle bigger, badder artillery. Things the average 3 foot fairy physically can't. So, seeing an opportunity, Foaly eagerly outfitted Butler with absolutely every single bit of technology he had developed, keen to finally see his precious inventions put to use.
(My other, parallel, headcanon is that Foaly started to tell Butler off when he was selecting gadgets and guns off the rack...then Butler made a look and Foaly decided it was healthier this way)
  • Root yelling at his imaginary Mulch (lulz) has made me realize that Mulch is to Root as Artemis is to Holly. That elusive fly that buzzes just past the spider's web, the sneaky mouse that steals the olive but leaves the pit on the trap.
  • Also, please tell me that everyone in the shuttle heard Root randomly shouting out over the intercom at his hallucination.
  • It's interesting to see Butler tell Root off when the latter is yelling at Holly. I can't quite word it properly. Previously Butler had been content to let the fairies take point on the mission - and still is - but he's been through enough combat and intense mission situations to recognize a superior officer being out of line and having to deal with it/defuse the situation.
Chapter 12: The Boys Are Back (Awwww yeah)
  • Always loved the imagery with the blacked out windows in Foaly's Op's Booth. Initially, when Cudgeon is expositioning, the techs outside are described as plonking about, trying to find a mole (which it's weird no one else found it). Then here, when the windows are untinted again, the the same techies are now all pointed towards the Op's Booth, feverishly trying to crack it open
  • Again, I don't believe we ever hear it from Opal's side, but we know she had to be plotting something against Cudgeon as he was against her
  • Between Foaly and Cudgeon's laptop encounter and Mulch's fissure just happening to open, there's a lot of fortunate timing here. Foaly no sooner gets the idea to use the laptop's camera and sets it up and moments later Cudgeon pops onto the screen.
  • Artemis contemplating the future possibility of contemplating Holly in a romantic light.
  • Soooooooo, the general goblin gang population is unaware that Cudgeon is involved in this nefarious scheme...but they all seem to know Opal is? The low level goblins dragged him out of LEP directly to Koboi Labs. But she's supposedly going to a co-heroine in this rebellion? Unless she's planning to say she was coerced or blackmailed...she's kinda...well...I think a beetle has better chance of escaping Mulch's molars at that point.
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- Honestly, either Mulch is really skilled or Foaly is less skilled than he claims to be. He has been stealing Oscars for 6 months and Foaly already knew where he lived, yet couldn't find any evidence good enough to bring to Root? Or possibly Foaly just wasn't that invested in catching him.
To be fair, when Foaly initially attempted to voice his theory in the first book, Root sounded hardly interested...so perhaps Foaly just shrugged it off and kept it on the backburner. But yeah, considering how much credit he gave himself for narrowing the leak....maybe the latter :lol:
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- Sometimes Eoin refers to him as the Grouch and sometimes as Mulch. Interesting.
Reckon it's a "method writer" thing. Reflecting how Mulch is sort of unconsciously psyching himself up.
Iris wrote:
Sun 14th Jun 2020
- Why does Mulch still try to flee after realizing he can't get away? I'd have liked to be spared that sharp shock.
Hollywood.
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Cabaline wrote:
Sat 13th Jun 2020
  • Was Cudgeon gloating to Foaly from the tactical room just metres away from Trouble and the rest?! That's risky!
Wow, I didn't put that together! That's some nerve :lol:
Goes without say, probably not the best idea to go twirling your mustache at your victims just at all xD
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Post by Battery » Sun 21st Jun 2020

Hey hey it's the weekend! I managed to finish the reading on Tuesday this week, which I'm pretty sure is a personal best :lol: Can you guys believe we only have one more week of TAI?!
  • Artemis doesn't know what to do with having people in his corner whom he didn't order to be there
  • "Couldn't afford to take chances" with Mulch's life, riiight. Arty's making friends :)
  • Goodness, he's been doing all this in his school uniform??
  • Artemis Fowl, speechless.
  • Artemis is not so great under pressure, but the fact that he's trying anyway makes this even braver
  • I misread the part about Foaly's screen initially, thought he was actually in the next room and started imagining being Foaly, cooped up in his booth for hours, watching everything fall apart with a front row seat, knowing he's being blamed for it all - and then watching Artemis Fowl schlorp out of a pipe on the wall and say hey
  • Cudgeon, Iris and artymon both warned you about the monologues!
  • When our humans are eventually on good terms with the People, I hope "Butler-proof" is an official certification manufacturers can get
  • The image of everyone being so surprised about Artemis's phone ringing that both villains just let him answer it is golden
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Re: Artemis Fowl Read-Along

Post by artymon I\/ » Sun 21st Jun 2020

Hey hey!!!!

I was extremely tempted to finish the whole thing....which I'll probably end up doing today.

Okay, so I know I say this every week...but I really don't have a lot of notes. So we'll see what I can puff up and rant about.

Chapter 13: Into the Breach
  • Strange that Artemis, the master planner of plans, schemer of schemes, blindly plunges into a death tube of radioactive plasma, sans plans.
  • Even though they don't directly say so, Holly and Root seem to condone the idea of using lethal force (Butler's SIG) against the goblins. It's fascinating as fairies are typically depicted to be very pro-life etc.
  • If this were a run of the mill action/war flick, that moment with Holly, Root, and Butler, "Gentlemen, it's been a pleasure" would totally have been an Oscar moment. Facing insurmountable odds.
  • Okay, here's my finger equivalent: I 100% forget about the bit with Butler busting down the door to rescue Artemis. What a BEAST. Butler-proof doors. Lol.
Final thought for the chapter would be a focus on Opal. Despite being the co-antagonist, we don't get a lot out of her. We get her motivations, and have a roughly a similar amount of scenes with her and Cudgeon, yeah. But we don't get a lot of the "crazy" Opal we'll see later on. Either we just didn't get a chance to see her character fleshed out or she doesn't go full crazy until after her "coma" event.
But then again, TTP shows she already was a bit nutty....

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Sun 21st Jun 2020
[*]I misread the part about Foaly's screen initially, thought he was actually in the next room and started imagining being Foaly, cooped up in his booth for hours, watching everything fall apart with a front row seat, knowing he's being blamed for it all - and then watching Artemis Fowl schlorp out of a pipe on the wall and say hey
For what it's worth, the goblin generals at least saw some schlorpling :lol:
Battery wrote:
Sun 21st Jun 2020
[*]Cudgeon, Iris and artymon both warned you about the monologues!


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Battery wrote:
Sun 21st Jun 2020
[*]When our humans are eventually on good terms with the People, I hope "Butler-proof" is an official certification manufacturers can get
Second the motion :lol:
Battery wrote:
Sun 21st Jun 2020
[*]The image of everyone being so surprised about Artemis's phone ringing that both villains just let him answer it is golden
Right??? "Is...is that a phone? How rude! We are trying to have an evil showdown!"
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Re: Artemis Fowl Read-Along

Post by Cabaline » Mon 22nd Jun 2020

I know, once again I am late, but here are my thoughts for the week :D

Chapter 13:
  • Bulter's security blanket is a gun. Obviously.
  • "Sometimes being a genius was a burden" I don't think Arty has ever admitted that his intelligence might not always be a good thing before.
  • I really feel for Foaly, he is essentially being held and tortured, and he feels all of the hope leave him. That's something that none of our other characters has been through. Even when Butler died in AF he wasn't despondent, and it didn't last long. This whole book is about how Arty never gave up on getting his dad back. Holly never allows herself to give up hope. But Foaly feels everything he had leave him and sits watching and despairing. That's an awful thing, especially when it is very literally his worst fear.
  • If the slop in the plasma vents was radioactive, how come Holly and Root weren't as sensitive to it as they were to the radiation in the air in Russia?
  • Root imitating Holly and mimicking her made me cackle.
  • Butler being able to break down that door reminds me of the stories you hear of mother's getting a burst of stregth and being able to lift cars off their children etc.
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Re: Artemis Fowl Read-Along

Post by artymon I\/ » Tue 23rd Jun 2020

Cabaline wrote:
Mon 22nd Jun 2020

Chapter 13:
  • Bulter's security blanket is a gun. Obviously.
*proud tears streaming* He'd make a darn fine American. *salutes with bear arms*
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