Artemis's Memories

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Post by MMK » Fri 16th Feb 2007

(The Eternity Code, p. 303, US paperback edition)
"'Commence deleting,' ordered Foaly.'but keep a copy.  Sometime when I have a few weeks off I'm going to find out what makes this guy tick.'"

Ever since I first read this, I've been looking forward to seeing how Artemis reacts to the People knowing his deepest secrets. They have access to his plots, his emotions, everything. And I don't think Artemis even knows.

It doesn't seem, however, as if Foaly actually read them. Certainly he doesn't act as if he has. This surpises me: wouldn't the People want to know?

Has Foaly read Artemis's memories? What do you think the LEP's doing with them?
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Post by BlackOpal » Fri 16th Feb 2007

Wow, I've never even noticed that! I don't think they read them yet, but that could easily be a plot in the next book. If they had read them, they would have known about the disk etc. and have taken it from Mulch. Maybe they just stored them for later use then forgot.

Edit: I was going to put, what if Artemis got a hold of them, cause then he'd remember, but then I remembered that he would never know about the fairy people and wouldn't be able to retrieve them. Hehheh.
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Post by Yonder » Fri 16th Feb 2007

:blink: I hadn't thought of that either... huh...
I don't think he's read them yet, because he probably would've made a comment or something to Artemis about an embarrassing one, don't you think?
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Post by sorana » Fri 16th Feb 2007

oh i didn't read the 4th and the 5th book...i thought it would say about this... :o I'm curious.
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Post by Modest-Genius » Fri 16th Feb 2007

I don' think it will be relevent to the next plot but it could be a good mini book for when the series ends.

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Post by sorana » Sat 17th Feb 2007

yeaaah that would be interesting and fun :lol: tough it may be like doctor argon's ****ysis :lol:
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Post by inkweaver » Sun 18th Feb 2007

BlackOpal wrote: Wow, I've never even noticed that!

Me either! scary.....yay plot holes! (i know it seems weird for me to say that, but it just makes eoin seem more human than god-like)
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Post by no. 1 » Sun 18th Feb 2007

This could be a challence idea... hmm, interesting...
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Post by Dim_Aldebaran » Mon 19th Feb 2007

There's a fascinating fic based on this idea, which won several Orion Awards: <a href='http://criminality.popullus.net/archive/lessaandryn/whathavewedone.htm' target='_blank'>What Have We Done</a>, by Lessa & Ryn. So, it has already been done very well, and it's been done an awful lot at ff.net as well. If you can figure out an original twist on it, go for it. :)

I haven't figured out a way to rationalize the mindwipe scientifically, partly because memory is still rather esoteric to scientists, and partly because what we have figured out have made this sort of procedure almost impossible. I would think that the best way to mindwipe would be to lesion particular neurons... which would involve destroying them, not recording them. (And it's mindboggling how difficult it would be to translate a biologic code for memories into something digital, into something that might be even slightly coherant to anyone viewing it...) But it's implicated in the book that there's a way to do it for the fairies, so, it's canon, and thus very possible within the books. *shrugs*
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Post by MMK » Mon 19th Feb 2007

Wow... that was really good- thanks for linking to it! :)

I still wish they'd do something with his memories in the actual books... I don't think it would necessarily play out the way it did in the fanfiction.
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Post by petitebrunette » Mon 19th Feb 2007

oh my gosh Dim_Aldebaran thankyou so much for that link. I loved this story. It was great. And made me really sad at the end. Thnkyou.
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Post by Forever_in_Magic » Tue 20th Feb 2007

Wow. That's a good thought MMK.

I never thought of that. I don't think Foaly has.

Well, we never know.

Yeah, it would be a cool plot.

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Post by TomRK1089 » Sat 24th Feb 2007

I'm assuming that technologically it is impossible, therefore magic is involved in the process. Perhaps it's merely a more effective psychological block -- after all, anyone skilled in the art of 'doublethink' can block off certain thoughts as they emerge. I would assume that the fairies have put in a subconscious blocker much more powerful than ours.

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Post by Lufgif » Sat 24th Feb 2007

That's actually a really interesting idea. But doesn't doublethink involve participation from the other end as well? Like:

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Post by TomRK1089 » Sat 24th Feb 2007

Nah, I doublethink myself all the time (usually involving an imminent deadline that I want to ignore :D ) I'll start thinking about all the work I have to do on...and then I move off track and forget about it. Takes practice, but it does work.

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