Persecution (Persecuting Christians)

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Re: Persecution (Persecuting Christians)

Post by JLHxXxX » Wed 2nd Dec 2009

HEY! THAT WAS TOTALLY UNECESSARY!! She's apologizing and you just totally cut her off! That's what the fruit she's talking about!!
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Re: Persecution (Persecuting Christians)

Post by partyonsoccerfan » Wed 2nd Dec 2009

Hey, nutrino, your not better than anyone! We're all equel, no matter what you think. And if you still think your better becuase you don't have the same religious beliefs as Christians, that's sad. (And terribly mean!)
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Re: Persecution (Persecuting Christians)

Post by BlackOpal » Fri 4th Dec 2009

Dear Debate thread,

This is not how one debates.
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Re: Persecution (Persecuting Christians)

Post by The redeem3r » Fri 22nd Jan 2010

HollyShort9 wrote:Sometimes I think that Christians are some of the most persecuted people in the world today. Christians form the largest religious group in the world, yet we are the most ridiculed.

In the media, it is deemed acceptable to make fun of Jesus, but if you make fun of any other religion then it's not acceptable (as far as I can tell). How is this fair?


Of course it's only logical that Christianity is one of the most ridiculed religions of today. Christianity is like the bully in a playground of children (the other children being other religions). Christianity takes parts that it disapproves of from religions, and bashes it.

The Jews: This, I personally, is the religion that has the most justified reason to despise Christianity. Apart from their separate views of Jesus's place on this planet, Christianity has severely impacted Jewish history, rarely in decent ways.

For example, lets look back to the crusades, or better yet, Middle Ages times in general.

1. During the crusades, Christian followers literally volunteered to killed nonbelievers. When they attacked cities on the path to Jerusalem, they would kill the Jews and Muslims, without even ATTEMPTING to reason with them. Why? Most likely because they did not want to. They wanted to kill them for their own reasons. (Of course, this can be justified because many of the people fighting were illiterates, and did not know what the bible truly said. The popes simply read to them what they wanted them to believe. So, while the soldiers were massacring Muslims and Jews, they thought they were earning themselves a place in heaven, while, essentially, it was the exact opposite.) Nonetheless, the attacks were executed by Christians with power. (Pope)

2. Bubonic Plague - After endless search for a cure, they finally blamed the Jewish community. Why them? Why not merchants, or Muslims, or even peasants, whom lived in very unsanitary conditions? Simple. They didn't want to. They saw the Jews as inferior, and they thought they could over power them.

Things like the above make me wonder why Jews are still around. The religion has survived through endless massacres, so I'm think Christianity should not mind insults to their religion.

Christians are often mocked for believing in God, and not following commonly accepted scientific theories (e.g. Big Bang, evolution), but would they act the same if it was a Muslim or a Jew? Why are their beliefs respected, but ours are not?

So are every other religions =/

Christianity doesn't accept scientific discoveries, if I recall correctly, the Christian community heavily bashed the moon landing, saying it was a fib. Not just that, hundreds of more instances of scientific discoveries.

Also, the church locked Galileo up for life for sharing his beliefs. They thought that his ideas would interfere with their religion. In fact, his ideas weren't deemed acceptable to the Christian community until some time in the last 40 years.

In actuality, it's not their beliefs being mocked, it is just their actions and responses to scientific development.

Also, who said the Muslim religion is respected?

Muslims - They are stereotypically accused of being terrorists by so many people. I can't imagine the times I've gotten in fights because people are ignorant to facts, and they unknowingly bash religion.



I'm not saying that there aren't other groups that are also persecuted, but it just seems to me that people seem to ignore the persecution that Christians get. Does anyone agree/disagree?

In the end, I heavily disagree with you. I don't mean to offend you, but it seems as if you made this topic based on a biased point of view. All religions have their up's there downs, as well as friends and enemies.
Also, I just want to clear something up. It may be random, but I think it's important.

Atheism is not a religion.
If you actively disbelieve in God, you are an atheist. Atheism is a label, not a religion - you don't subscribe to it, you simply are or aren't.
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Re: Persecution (Persecuting Christians)

Post by JLHxXxX » Tue 26th Jan 2010

Oof, I have to agree with Reedem3r. If I had lived back then I'd probobly be dead. Still, all religions get persecuted.. christianity..they probobly just don't want all that happening again. Rhode Island amost became a seperate state when they signed the consitution I believe, because they were terrified of loosing their freedom of religion.
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