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What do you think will happen in the next installment of the Fowl series?

Postby MichaelM » Wed 1st Mar 2006

So what do yas think of the update on the plot??? :jump:

If anyone hasnt read it yet, just click here: <a href='http://artemisfowl.fangathering.com/books_5.html' target='_blank'>http://artemisfowl.fangathering.com/books_5.html</a>

Sounds pretty great to me :D

Im really interested in these demons. They must be pretty powerful to be the only family to survive above ground! How will Artemis fight those??? :ph43r:
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Postby darvit » Wed 1st Mar 2006

OMG, demons! :o Buffy on the loose! XD *LoL*

An interesting plot, and definitely a breath of fresh air! :jump:
I was afraid our beloved author was losing ideas!

Well Artemis could use his, uhm.. I dunno. Well first of all, we don't know how Colfer's gonna make his demons look like... I mean, are his demons gonna be humanoid, like those we see on Buffy? Or are those demons gonna be like the traditional red, trident-poking creatures we see in cartoons? Or are those demons gonna be like the beautiful and/or mutilated creatures we see in Neil Gaiman's work?

So yeah, let's all start thinking! :focl:
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Postby KittyRainbow » Wed 1st Mar 2006

Only took you five days! :lol:

I'm presuming these are supposed to be Fomorian-type demons... I did wonder about that sort of thing after reading Marz's "The Demon Design". Sounds like it's gonna be cool. :)
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Postby MichaelM » Wed 1st Mar 2006

KittyRainbow wrote: Only took you five days! :lol:

I'm presuming these are supposed to be Fomorian-type demons... I did wonder about that sort of thing after reading Marz's "The Demon Design". Sounds like it's gonna be cool. :)

Thats not bad for someone who is utterly swamped with cw right now :P

(I have my full maths coursework, 2 conversations and a presentation for french, a database+spreadsheet for ICT and a speech for english for next week :( )

I mean, AFC is still waiting on those "HUGE UPDATES COMING SOON!" :rofl:


Darvit - lmao - ANYTHING to get sarah michelle gellar in! :jump:

I imagine theyll be human-esque, as so far, all of the creatures bar trolls have been very similar to humans.
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Postby KittyRainbow » Wed 1st Mar 2006

Hey, I'm not even well enough to go to school at the moment and I still manage to get the news first. ;P

If they are going to be Fomorians, they'll look like... umm, giants, apparently. (If you want to know about the Fomorians, look here: <a href='http://www.pantheon.org/articles/f/fomorians.html' target='_blank'>http://www.pantheon.org/articles/f/fomorians.html</a> ) And I do think it's likely they'll be the Fomorians. We have canon references to the Tuatha De Danaan, so why not?
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Postby MichaelM » Wed 1st Mar 2006

KittyRainbow wrote: Hey, I'm not even well enough to go to school at the moment and I still manage to get the news first. ;P

If they are going to be Fomorians, they'll look like... umm, giants, apparently. (If you want to know about the Fomorians, look here: <a href='http://www.pantheon.org/articles/f/fomorians.html' target='_blank'>http://www.pantheon.org/articles/f/fomorians.html</a> ) And I do think it's likely they'll be the Fomorians. We have canon references to the Tuatha De Danaan, so why not?

lol - Time off school is great!!! Tonnes of free time :D

I was off for like a week last month - And luved it to bits! :jump:

Unless youre really sick, in which case, yikes! Hope ya get better soon!! :(



The link is great :D

But what makes you think theyll be Fomorians? :unsure:

(Although, picking an Irish myth legend is a pretty great idea if its true :D )
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Postby KittyRainbow » Thu 2nd Mar 2006

Well, time off school starts to grate a little after about, oh, five years of it... :/

Colfer has reworked a lot of myths in the past. I mean, even "LEPrecon" is a twist on "leprechaun"! He does have some classical references (Holly is Cupid's great-granddaughter) but most of them seem to be Irish myths. I think it would be consistant to have these demons be inspired by mythology, especially Irish mythology, and within that I think Fomorians are the most logical guess.
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Postby darvit » Thu 2nd Mar 2006

KittyRainbow wrote: Well, time off school starts to grate a little after about, oh, five years of it... :/

Colfer has reworked a lot of myths in the past. I mean, even "LEPrecon" is a twist on "leprechaun"! He does have some classical references (Holly is Cupid's great-granddaughter) but most of them seem to be Irish myths. I think it would be consistant to have these demons be inspired by mythology, especially Irish mythology, and within that I think Fomorians are the most logical guess.

Wow, this is really educational. I'm actually learning something about Irish mythology! ^_^

I guess I've overlooked the fact that one could actually see archetypal/mythical/symbolical literary elements in the Artemis Fowl books! :o I didn't actually think this was possible. I thought all the while that AF was a cute series of great fairy books with a feminist streak. I missed the mythological part. Thanks for the enlightenment. Gives me a bunch of ideas for future literary criticism papers. ;)

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Postby KittyRainbow » Thu 2nd Mar 2006

I think you could argue that most fantasy books contain mythological/symbolical themes. Afterall most of the standard fantasy creatures have been in folktales for centuries, and the usual character/plot archetypes could be applied too.

But I think AF is slightly odd in that unlike, say, Harry Potter, the myth elements aren't necessarily reworked. As I said, there's both Irish and Greek influences there - and yet nothing is done to account for this. Cupid is real. The Tuatha De Danaan are real. How are they supposed to interlock?

Edit: darvit, if you want to learn about Irish mythology, I suggest you check out the other bits of that site I linked. It's more of an encyclopedia than a real account of the stories, but it'll give you the basis.
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Postby Sofie » Thu 2nd Mar 2006

Yaay! *Jumps up and down* Can't WAIT until September... ^_^
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Postby Hoonah* » Sat 4th Mar 2006

MichaelM wrote: I mean, AFC is still waiting on those "HUGE UPDATES COMING SOON!" :rofl:


That is because Matt has been away for a while and Trojan Centaur had to take over for a while. I talked to him today and he said that he is OK now(go to AFC and look at Matt's last few posts. You will understand what I mean if you do. I am not going to say anything without his permission, but he posted it in the forums himself, so I will let you read his own post), but still needs to get caught up on some stuff before he can get back to AFC and update it.

Just thought that you might want to know that. I had no idea that you did not.

I cannot wait for September!!! I am SO excited.

Demons...*shudders*...tee...hee...I hope that they all get uber-defeated in the end, because...as a Christian...demons are very real to me...*nods*...and very evil...*nods again in agreeance with herself*
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Postby MichaelM » Sat 4th Mar 2006

Hoonah* wrote:
MichaelM wrote: I mean, AFC is still waiting on those "HUGE UPDATES COMING SOON!" :rofl:


That is because Matt has been away for a while and Trojan Centaur had to take over for a while. I talked to him today and he said that he is OK now(go to AFC and look at Matt's last few posts. You will understand what I mean if you do. I am not going to say anything without his permission, but he posted it in the forums himself, so I will let you read his own post), but still needs to get caught up on some stuff before he can get back to AFC and update it.

Just thought that you might want to know that. I had no idea that you did not.

I cannot wait for September!!! I am SO excited.

Demons...*shudders*...tee...hee...I hope that they all get uber-defeated in the end, because...as a Christian...demons are very real to me...*nods*...and very evil...*nods again in agreeance with herself*

Naa - Ive heard all his reasons - I knew them already :)



And im sure the demons will be destroyed. I mean, theyre up against Artemis! :ph43r:
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Postby Sofie » Sun 5th Mar 2006

MichaelM wrote:
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MichaelM wrote: I mean, AFC is still waiting on those "HUGE UPDATES COMING SOON!" :rofl:


That is because Matt has been away for a while and Trojan Centaur had to take over for a while. I talked to him today and he said that he is OK now(go to AFC and look at Matt's last few posts. You will understand what I mean if you do. I am not going to say anything without his permission, but he posted it in the forums himself, so I will let you read his own post), but still needs to get caught up on some stuff before he can get back to AFC and update it.

Just thought that you might want to know that. I had no idea that you did not.

I cannot wait for September!!! I am SO excited.

Demons...*shudders*...tee...hee...I hope that they all get uber-defeated in the end, because...as a Christian...demons are very real to me...*nods*...and very evil...*nods again in agreeance with herself*

Naa - Ive heard all his reasons - I knew them already :)



And im sure the demons will be destroyed. I mean, theyre up against Artemis! :ph43r:

Destroyed?? Isn't that a little harsh? Can they help that they are demons? Okay- Maybe they can. How would I know? I'm not in to that religion-thing. *shrugs*
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Postby F.A.B » Mon 6th Mar 2006

Hmmm...destroyed...? I would say more utterly discombobulated, dismembered and squished into itsy-bitsy teeny-weeny infinitessimal pieces :focl:
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Postby Sofie » Tue 7th Mar 2006

...Can't they be persuaded to just... Be nice? C'mon, we're not George W. Bush here eighter, are we? Go peaceful solutions and talking instead of fighting! :rockon:
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